Why ANY Potential Weapons Ban Will Affect You (Hunter, Sport Shooter, Self Defense)
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By now I am sure everyone is aware that a new “Assault Weapons” (their words, not mine) Ban will be introduced by Dianne Feinstein at the start of the 2013 Congress.
You can see what the preliminary language of the bill is going to ban here.
I know many people, including some self identified supporters of the Second Amendment, are out there right now saying, “Who cares, this ban doesn’t affect me. It only goes after military weapons and assault rifles. I can hunt and defend my family just fine with my 30-06 rifle and my 9mm Glock.”
Well, wait a second, let’s look at just what could be banned under the new proposed law. Here is the wording that Feinstein is currently using on her website:
“Stops the sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing of more than 100 specifically-named firearms as well as certain semiautomatic rifles, handguns and shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.”
I’m not sure many people realize just how far reaching that statement is.
Let’s break it down into a list that is a little easier to read.
Under Feinstein’s proposed bill, the following types of guns would be banned:
- 100 Specifically named firearms (we don’t know what these are yet)
- Handguns that can accept a detachable magazine (Glocks, Sigs, M&Ps, 1911 style pistols, Springfield XDs and the list goes one)
- Semi automatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine (Ruger 10-22s, Ruger Mini 14, Ruger Mini 30, AKM pattern rifles, AR pattern rifles)
- Shotguns that can accepts a detachable magazine (No more Saigas)
- Fixed magazine fed semi automatic rifles that can accept more than 10 rounds
- Fixed magazine handguns (I’m not aware of any modern handguns besides revolvers that fit this category, but it’s there nonetheless)
We aren’t just talking about 1 or 2 specific models of guns here. We’re talking about thousands of individual models that will no longer be available for purchase or transfer.
Decided you don’t need one of your Glock handguns anymore? Want to sell or pawn it to help with some bills? Sorry bud, that gun is yours forever. I suppose you could always turn the gun in to the government for destruction.
OK, so you only own 6 shot revolvers, pump shotguns that hold 5 rounds, and a bolt action hunting rifle. You’re good to go, right? Why should you throw your hat in the ring with these other gun owners? You don’t even believe in those semi automatic doohickies anyway.
What do you think is going to happen once all of the semi-autos are more or less gone? Are crazy people going to stop killing other innocent people? No, they’re just going to change weapons. They are going to use lever action rifles and revolvers. THEN they will be coming after your hunting rifles, your bird shotguns, your target shooting guns, and the revolver you keep in your nightstand to make sure you can keep your family safe if evil kicks in your door at 3am.
Rest assured, when there are no more evil “assault weapons” to blame for senseless violence of crazy people your weapons will be next.
Supporters of gun rights, regardless of what type of weapons you own, should all band together to fight any new legislation that restricts gun ownership.
Some people may be too young to remember, or weren’t paying attention because the media wasn’t as powerful then, but back in 1986 gun owners made concessions to the anti-gun lobby in order to protect the future rights of gun owners. The Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986 outlawed machine gun ownership for automatic weapons not manufactured and not registered before 1986. Many gun owners were completely fine with the legislation saying, “What would I need a full auto gun for? I have my semi-auto versions, which are cheaper anyway. Besides, they’re letting people keep the ones they have now, you’ll still be able to get one if you really want one.” However, over 25 years later automatic weapons are almost unattainable due to price and availability. Those same gun owners who were OK with keeping their semi-autos are now the same ones fighting for their rights to keep those weapons legal.
An attack on any part of the Second Amendment is an attack on the entire Second Amendment.
100% agreed. They will not rest until we are all weapon less…then China will be happy and feel safe when they finally own America.
It is important to realize that we have a Totalarian government, no longer a country that has recognized that the Bill of Rights guaranteeing individual rights.
It will never happen, There is just not the support needed for another aw ban. They know it did not work the first time, they know it dose not work in other countries, and they know we will not just give up our rights. Obama and his goons are just buying time till the emotions calm down and then they will just throw it on the back burner and not really care about banning anything. If anything dose get passed it will probably be something small like a magazine ban. I do still think we need to make sure we write our reps and make it know we are against such bills but I think we will win this easy.
I hope you are right. However, you need to understand Obama’s thinking. He thinks like a Marxist. He wants total disarmament of the people. Now he does want his own private army of thugs to enfore his will. He said so back in 2008. Was that just talk? I don’t think so.
Banning assault weapons won’t stop the derranged lunatics from going on these killing sprees. The very same day as Newtown ‘s travesty, a man slashed 33 at a n elementary school in China. A country where civilians aren’t allowed to own guns. How many lives will be lost or endangered without the right to bear arms. How many lives were defended in 2012 alne by the use of a firearm? …..These are important considerations.
The irony, is Feinstein’s own state tried this during the gold rush. Banning concealed weapons for 7 years only to repeal the ban because it cost MORE lives and endangermment because the law abiding citizens could not defend themslves against the criminals ignoring the ban.
I don’t like that we are living with such violence in our communities.. I was heartbroken when I saw what happened to those children and their teachers. I am angry that we are under attack derranged lunatics and in fear of our children’s lives within our own communities. s
Only fools blame the tools …. If guns are not necessary to combat threats of violence then law enforcement doesn’t need them either. If our schools are under attack then we need to defend them, …… not cripple our own abilities to defend ourselves.
I think it is time for a 90-ioomillion gun owner rally in Washington,D.C.just as a show-of-force to these jelly- spined politicians.Oh! Bring your guns.
It does appear our government want all guns banned, and are using every instance of gun killing to make people believe it is all the guns’ fault. When they can convince the masses guns are at fault, one time, they have their path cleared to repeat the same nonsense over and over.
They ignore the times guns save someone, happens every day, but that doesn’t help them with their agenda, whatever that may be, so you will never read about those in mainstream media.
They ignore the root of the problem, which is we have a serious problem in our country. Until they find the answers to the real problem, they will continue. Why did the naked man eat the face of the homeless man? Why did a mother drown her five children? Why did another mother cut the arms and legs off her newborn? Something is seriously wrong here. Maybe it is drugs, maybe it is GMO, maybe it is bad food from China, maybe it is something in the air,, but something, not guns, is very wrong here.
And it needs fixed, but as long as they point the convenient finger at guns, they will never find the real problem.
I think Obama should be the first to show his support on gun control by getting rid of all the guns that are around him and if we don’t need no protection neither does he.If this bill passes bring our military personnel home to protect America from the other criminals.
An AWB is a feel-good thing as we feel compelled to do something. Doing nothing seems to uncaring and makes us feel as if we have no control over things like this (which we don’t). As hum as we don’t feel well when we feel that we don’t have control over something. Whether it is through prayer, science, etc. we use all sorts of mechanisms to attempt to control the randomness we see in our daily lives.
Guns are just a tool. Take away one tool, another will simply replace it. Eight children killed in a school in Japan from an attacked with a knife, another 10 in Germany from a home made flamethrower, Timothy McVeigh and his bomb, etc.
But an AWB is low-hanging fruit and is tempting to many people. The alternative (going after mental health care options and funding) seems to ambiguous and delayed to most – it doesn’t provide the simply and immediate answer taht we seek so we can move on, patting ourselves on the back for having addressed and resolved the issue.
But we’ve proven that the last AWB didn’t work (the Colorado school shooting took place during Clinton’s AWB), the shooting in the recent CT shooting already broke over 40+ laws, there are hundreds of thousands of weapons in the US that won’t disappear with any ban, and prohibition during the 20′s was a miserable failure that we still fail to learn from. We must also remember the Founding Fathers gave us the all important second amendment that they expressly did not limit as it wasn’t just about self defense from our neighbors.
When we look at the statistics, we see that all of the mass shootings in the recent decades (except for one – the Gifford’s shooting in AZ) all took place in gun free zones. Mass shootings where there is someone already there that can confront the shooter result in a little over two deaths (average) and shootings where the police have to be called to stop it average over 15 deaths.
We know that it takes ‘fire to fight fire’, we are just reluctant to acknowledge the solution to violent crime is an armed society. We want to believe that we have evolved beyond the wild west and firearms have no place in a modern, civilized society. The reality is that firearms aren’t needed in a crime-free society, which we’re nowheres near. Contrary to what we’ve been taught, guns don’t equal crime – criminals equal crime and firearms are the only solution that equalize the weak defending themselves against stronger opposing forces of evil.
As for the assault rifles, again, they are only a tool. Someone can just as easily walk into a school with pistols and a ton of amp, a chainsaw, homemade pipe bombs, etc. There is no end to the tools available for committing violent crime and are just as easily (if not more easily) obtained.
I live in NYC.Brooklyn for us an asault ban was always in effect.I will give you a couple of real examples of how it works.Each firearm concluding long guns have to be regestered with city of NY.There cirtain criteria that gun has to meet in order not be an asault .For example magazine capacity is alowed 5 rounds.Registrations are given by NYCFFLs or shotgun and rifle permit department.Very often gun would meet all requirements but it would look “To Scary” and based on that it wont be registered for example remington r25 is an assault rifle becouse it looks like m16 and will not be registered .Rossi Circuit judge also will not be registered even thou it holds only 5 rounds.It considered to be a shot gun with revolving mechanism even it said on rossi web site that this gun s only sold with rifled barrel wich makes him in to a rifle but its ability to shoot .410 makes it illegal…….
They say only cops and military personal should only have weapons?
I ask you this. Say something major happened, civil unrest, bad storms, or worst some of our enemies decide to come to our land and invaid us.
How would the families of the service men and woman protect them selves, while they’er protectors are protecting other people? What about the people that have resources like farm land, corn and wheat feilds, how will they protect there land? When famine and starvation kick in to the people that have no food, no clean water to drink, and no medican, there children are hungry, sick, and on the brink of dying. And they turn to violence to provide. How will people protect there children that are not sick and have good water and have food?
A question to our service men and woman. Would you want your family left vulnerable to rioters and looters. While you are off protecting banks, shopping malls, car dealers
And other corrperations. While the owners of those places are in there well guarded and self satainable establishments. Nice and safe with there children?
When a person is killed in an alcohol related accident should we start to blame the car? ….Guess we should be on the look out for an automobile ban pretty soon….since 10s of thousands of people are killed in alcohol related automobile accidents each year…
Governments are experts when it comes to due process ,red tape and rallying cries as they ascend the theater stage upon any disaster or massacre seemingly excited to cultivate the public response by blinding the victimized from their own personal agendas much like the coffinmakers of old and their measuring tapes grimacing while grieving consoling and conspiring about how many pine boxes to build for the pyre for all the more cash so they may retire !
It is within this frenzy that their agendas can be met while their quill pens and finest ink sit within the center of the table meanwhile the political schemers utilize every effort to block all attempts to circumvent navigate and expend every last ounce of will to rip a patriots god given right to possess their last chance at freedom from their cold dead hands !
For them to even begin will involve the measure of many expensive new regulations laws and torts that if they cannot bankrupt the bones that are the remains that are left of the gun industry and levy abominable taxes upon owners then if there is still life left on the hill where the NRA will fight them to keep what is left then in the time it takes the gun owners to keep paying out of pocket that is when they will strike !
As the pocket cleaning lawyers of low moral fibre they truly are then after their schemes of due process have liquidated as much as possible from the people then that is when they will drive the Patriots to bury their property and stash and hide the fundamental right of good men for over a few hundred years and decimate the iron will of your forefathers rights in one devious bill where the same protection allowed the very men who battled the British for these modern lawyers and their sorry state of selves who will through obstruction and corruptness brand fine men criminals for a deed that is purely American in every sense of the word !
Yes that is the very day when all avenues have been exhausted and one more pathetic psychotropic medicated mentally ill parasite will gain access to a gun and attempt to out do the last lone gunmen theory ghoul and hopefully will be cut down before he makes it to a maternity ward !!!Then that is when god fearing American Patriots will see ATF Vans and Wagons Tanks and arsenals of high tech weaponry and laser satellite equipment park on their front lawn and turn a regular suburban home into target practice from weapons that can dissect tanks meanwhile honest men will be turned into insurgents in their own country for ownership of weapons that break laws that were specifically written to ruin peoples lives because of a government that is terrified of a minority of people that have been raised within a culture of gun ownership since birth which the government or occupied power needs to understand is much more than a weapon ,It is a distinct culture !
Americans of the NRA may God be with you because your government assuredly is not !
I think Washington should know we are exercising our 2nd amendment right to defend against tyranny however no one should go bearing arms unless there is no other choice so A parade of armed citizens would not only allow the President to issue marshal law due to civil UN-rest but also allow the corrupt media to show that all the crazy gun fanatics are on the loose . Weapons should not be brought into voicing your or my stand in the government, presidents and UN’s new world order agenda, only when our country is endangered by tyranny should we exercise our 2nd amendment right to defend against tyranny.
What the media is not telling people much like the story of the Fire fighters is after 16 years in prison a man is released and burns his home down and shoots at first responders, how did a convicted felon a known murderer who committed his first murder not with a gun but with a hammer get his hands on a firearm not through legal means, and New York has pretty strict gun laws so with all the strict gun laws how does this happen, the bad guys do not follow the rules. Then they take the cowards way out for there months of media fame while the victims get a few days and then off to the next victim.
wonder how the media would feel if there rights were at stake if freedom of the press and free speech were in danger has I feel those are next to be placed on the chopping block and with an unarmed society there will be no one to defend against these violations to our constitution you know that peice of paper our country was founded on.
All guns should be banned ………….if u dont get it after all the killings u obviously support anachy not order.anyways righ now anarchy is winning and all societies destroyed themselves under anarchy u wont need to worry about the chinese.
All pathological lies should be banned, hence we wont ever hear from you again that gun control of the law abiding reduces violence as it never does. Anarchy is built on lies and fear, the tools and trade of the experts at spewing such things, the anti gun freaks!
Working out very nicely in Chicago isn’t it? Good gawd, buy a CLUE.
@ gergina…I read today that some kids died of the flu….maybe you’d like to have that banned as well?
or swing sets, slides, merry-go-rounds….
or hotdogs, swimming, biking, sledding. There are a ton of everyday things that kill children, including their own parents, more than 200 kids a year are killed by their own parents…should we ban parenting.
If you think that is a ridiculous comparison..it was meant to be….just as ridiculous as someone saying that all guns should be banned.
To say it won’t pass congress is to be a fool. They said the same about the health care bill and no one even read. The issue will be where will you as an idividual stand when they want to know what you own. If they can throw these into the NFA which costs $200 tax per gun, next they can throw pump shotguns, lever action rifles, revolvers, etc. The time to stand is now.
If they throw them into the NFA then there really isnt anything that would stop you from making them full auto as they are registered eh!
This IS tyranny in its ugly form. Make a legal product you own illegal and turn you into a criminal.
I totally agree that any sort of ban of any weapons is not the answer, and that an attack on certain types of firearms or on any of our rights protected by the Second Amendment is an attack on all of them.
However, based on the information from Feinstein’s site, linked in the article, I think the author missed on critical word.
“Certain”. As in, “certain semiautomatic rifles, handguns and shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine.” Not ALL semi-automatic rifles, handguns, and shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine will be banned. From what I recall, the language of previous AWBs also said “certain” semiautomatic rifles, etc.
The inclusion of the word “certain” means that either some specific models will be banned, or those which can accept a detachable magazine AND meet certain characteristics (“evil features”) will be banned. Given that the proposed bill already says that more than 100 models of firearms will be banned, I’d say the “certain” indicates evil features.
Of course, we have no idea what will be considered an evil feature. Almost certainly, the previous ones will be included, and we’re likely to see new ones. Perhaps rifles with side rails for mounting accessories? Night sights on pistols? Ability to store ammunition on a shotgun outside of the magazine?
We’ll have to see what stupidity they come up with. But the point being there’s a good chance your Glock 17 won’t be banned, just the standard-capacity magazine (and that won’t be banned from your possession, just for sale or transfer). For now.
Hopefully this will fail spectacularly, and then we’ll get a National Right-to-Carry law instead. But don’t go burying your 10/22 just yet.
Much of this article is pure speculation. Let’s all wait a week to see what exactly is in the bill, and then start working to kill it.
It looks like the price of new houses may be going up. Under this law, it sounds like carpenters nail guns could be banned.
And when they are done with “Assault Weapons”, you know what’s next… “Sniper Rifles”. You know that accurate, powerful, bolt-action rifle with the scope on it that you Fudds supposedly use for deer hunting? Yeah, that’s a sniper rifle as sure as my AR is an assault weapon. Why would any “reasonable” person need a rifle that can kill a person from 600 yards away? A shotgun is all you need for deer.
So Now we have a legislature that can’t enforce the laws already on the books and in fact will only enforce laws that it decides it wants to. And we don’t have facilities that can handle the people who are already convicted criminals; but want to classify law abiding peole hwo own guns as criminals; because they want to maintain their own safety and that of their families???!!! Wow; doesn’t that make sense? Of course you rwalize that there will be an exception where elected officials are allowed to carry guns to protect themselves; but not the the law abiding citizens; right?
Just where does theb legislaure plan on putting all these new “criminals ; who refuse to accept thi8s law they propse to enact??? Where are they going to find the resouces to suport the enactment? Bet they can’t give you an answer!!!
IT’S NOT THE CAR IT’S THE DRIVER !!!!!!
It’s not only guns that’s killing innocent people planes and automobiles and the cost of living is killing people every day.There’s no right to take away our means to feed our families and protect them.I believe that there’s other important issues in America that need addressed not taking away our constitutional rights.Will America become the next Russia,maybe we should all find a new country.